Saturday, August 23, 2008

New Centennial Uniforms Revisited

The new uniforms are now in the Scout Shop. I went by to check them out, first hand. I don't think all the options are in yet but there is a good stock of the new items. The new forest green Switchback Uniform Pants are not yet available.

The first thing I noticed was that the uniform is really not that different. Once you get by the loss of the red shoulder loops and numerals, it becomes more a change of materials and cut rather than a huge change in the uniform. Yes, there are changes and yes, some people won't like them but I was very impressed by the new uniforms. They are well made, versatile and seem to be much more functional that before.

The shirt is about the same color as the old shirts. It is available in short and long sleeves in both Supplex Nylon and cotton/poly blend. The long-sleeved shirt has tabs on the sleeves so the sleeve can be rolled up and buttoned into place. The bellows pockets have the same basic look except they now have hook-and-loop closures. There is also a small pocket on the sleeve that does not appear to have a real purpose. The back of the shirt is pleated for easy movement.

I really like the new canvas pants. The forest green is not that different from the old pants. It is a good color, in my opinion. Remember the tiny lack-of -cargo pocket in the old uniform. It has been replaced by large usable cargo pockets. The literature say there is a pocket big enough for a Fieldbook. What a concept! The pants area available in both classic and relaxed fit. The relaxed fit is for those of us who have "relaxed bodies". A big change is that they are all unhemmed so you can't run in on the way to camp and pick up a pair, unless you have needle and thread. Two styles are available. The canvas has the total new design, zip-off convertible style the poly/cotton. The new Switchback is in the new forest green and is Supplex nylon but is in the same style as the older olive Switchbacks.

The new socks are great. They are a wicking blend that are very soft and look to be very comfortable. No cotton here! It took them 25 years to figure this out. There are several styles and weights including three from Thorlo. These are all official uniform socks. For some of the guys refusing to let go of the past (and you know who you are), there are no more knee socks! Welcome to the 21st century.

The red and olive mesh back cap was old, dated and for the most part ugly, has been replace by a forest green pre-curved visor model with a tone-on-tone emblem that looks much more like a cap you would buy and actually wear, if you had a choice. In my opinion, in case you could not tell, the old hat is the one piece of the uniform, more than any other, that looks 25 years old.

The updated web belt is also much more functional that the old web belt. It has a very attractive buckle design and is wider that its predecessor. Those of us who have spent the better part of a house payment buying belt buckles for leather belts for the last couple of decades won't have much use for this item.

The old uniform was 25 years old. It is time for a change. The new uniform is designed for comfort and activity. In practical terms, few of us will go out and replace everything. They are calling this uniform - transitional. That means all the old parts can be worn with all the new parts. You can't however, put red numerals on a new uniform. Let it go.

6 comments:

Eric said...

Where are they made? The old were made in the US. The Switchbacks are made in China. The reasoning I heard was to get a quality product and keep the price competitive. But, I would have paid a little more for US made. Also, the old uniforms weren't cheap.

Lew said...

Hi Ron, What is GSMC's suggestions or recommendations on transitioning to the new scout uniform? Keeping in mind that some parents may have to make a choice between going on some activities or buying a new uniform. Lew Stoner, Scoutmaster Troop 444

cbl1 said...

A quick fix for the no hemmed pants issues. Badge Magic. Cut into thin strips and put on inside of pants where you would normally hem. Instant fix . . last pretty well too.

Ron Pearman said...

Lew, there is no transition plan for the uniform. There are no old uniforms any more. All the old stock has been removed from the shelves. The old uniform parts can be worn along with the new uniform parts. The only transition comes when you need to replace a shirt or pants. You now have no choice (other that eBay). When you buy a shirt or pants, it will be the new Centennial Uniform.

cbl1 said...

They also really need to get out a uniform insignia guide for the new uniforms. I got one today and just had to try to go by the flyer pictures as to where to put the patches on the sleeves. There is a lot of room between the numbers and the pocket. I put the trained patch on the pocket flap like the picture although it probably would have looked good right under the numbers (where there was a lot of room - unlike the picture on their website flyer).

Doug said...

Our scout shop still has the old uniforms, at 25% off no less, so new scouts, and scouters, are making the choice when they go in to the shop. I personally think they should be gone, otherwise they will be around for ever. As for the red shoulders, I have seen some troops buy the new green for everyone in the troop to prevent the "why does he have red and you have green" question. I think it looks better and the shirts aren't that much different to cause an uproar. When it comes to the Jamboree 2010, I think almost every council will require the new uniform. To the original review, I will make this comment, while the new switchback pants are sinmilar, they are not the same, I personally enjoyed having the zippered bottoms on the pants to be able to remove them on a hike, now you have to hem the unfinished bottoms, that is a huge difference. I realize that the length on the old ones was either too long or too short for everyone, but I personally think they should sell the top and bottom of the pants seperately and offer different lengths for the bottoms WITH zippers. I am sure it wouldn't be a good time to ask for a change in uniform, but that would be awesome, when your child grows a couple of inches, you just buy new pant legs. Just an observation